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Kim Knutson's avatar

I would think that it was a lot more than 45%. And, while there were treatments available, fauci blanket refused to let them be used and instead called for the use of ventilators and remdesivir both of which caused either death or severe injuries (such as severe kidney infections).

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Moorea Maguire's avatar

Agreed, it's an outrage. And the scariest part is that a lot of folks still see him as a hero.

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Steve's avatar

Absolutely Kim, Fauci should be before a court yesterday! Both Ivermectin and Vitamin D were truly safe and effective, their side effects were less cancers, less strokes heart disease etc etc. But, critically less profits for big harma. People died so greedy sociopathic corporations could make a killing! Someone please sue me!! 😭

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Ed Rodgers's avatar

That’s not what Moorea reported here. The seemingly indisputable amount is 45%. If you also take the “covid not primary cause”, that grows to 75%.

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Mark Williams's avatar

The thing with “data” is it, entirely depends on (a) what questions are asked / of whom / how it’s recorded (b) levels of human integrity shown - nice article.👍

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Moorea Maguire's avatar

Well said, Mark

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Carol D Marsh's avatar

Thanks for this information we're not seeing anywhere else, Moorea.

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Lani V. Cox's avatar

Oooo, zingers at the end. My biggest regret was getting vaccinated. 1st Astra-Zeneca and the 2nd Pfizer in a little town in Northern Thailand. I was teaching at a primary school and it felt like if I had to travel back to the US, I had to be vaxxed. You couldn't book a hotel room either. It's amazing looking back, how wild we all went.

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Moorea Maguire's avatar

I'm so glad you're doing well enough to be teaching, Lani. The mandates were so wrong.

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Lani V. Cox's avatar

100% agree

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Henny Hiemenz's avatar

I’ve been amazed at the vitriol around all of this. People think “cause of death” is an exact science. It is not. Similar to HIV….people may die from other things…but they wouldn’t have been susceptible to those other things if not for already having HIV.

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Moorea Maguire's avatar

There are a lot of HIV-positives who survive many decades, so it doesn't necessarily contribute to death. Do you mean that SARS-Cov-2 contributed to all of these 530 deaths? The study went to great lengths to determine when COVID contributed to a death and when it didn't. I'm just trying to make sure I understand your point, Henny.

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Henny Hiemenz's avatar

No I 100% got your point. In reading your piece it sounded like the study was relying strictly on the cause of death that was listed on death certificates. And my point to that was that a lot of factors go into what actually gets put down as “cause of death.”

And while I know HIV is very survivable now (I have no idea on actual statistics) I know that was not the case at the outset. And at that point when people died it wasn’t always HIV that killed them. Maybe it was kidney failure (but they had HIV which made them susceptible to kidney failure). I can remember reading similar things about COVID.

I’m going to stop writing now because this is already way too long 😬. Sorry, but hopefully you get my drift.

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